>> i think wayne lapierre is going to revoke your nra membership for that. but i think you make a very good point, which is the requirements that we have for so many other things we don't apply to guns. the gun industry is treated very differently -- >> stephanie: just look at the seat belt laws, all of that stuff -- it just is incredible where people think you can't have any regulation on guns who's only purpose is to kill right? >> well, yes. well it's also for sport -- >> stephanie: well that's usually killing something. >> or target practice. >> people go for target practice, but you make an interesting point about the way we treat guns differently than other things that are far less dangerous, but now it is just such a struggle to get universal background checks that that's where we ought to put our focus. >> stephanie: you are right. nothing is always -- what does the president always say, let perfect be the enemy of good. this is where we have gotten the bar so low that we go okay if we can get anything. >> yeah, the other point i want to make, though